As founder of The Neu Project, and Partnership Strategy & Engagement Lead of Workplace Experience at Google, Megan Henshall knows a ton about neurodivergent audiences.

And as one of the producers of the Broadway musical

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, Sammy Lopez has dedicated himself to neurodivergent casts and audiences.

The two of them came together for a fascinating, insightful, practical, and very candid conversation about how live events can easily be tailored to better accommodate this often overlooked audience.

Here are 4 of the top ideas that came out of that conversation:

• Change the environment, don’t ask people to assimilate to things that are challenging for them
• Keep accessibility in mind rather than seeing accessibility as an afterthought.
• Being neuro inclusive means redefining design processes to make sure we’re getting the most out of everybody
• And then there were so many actionable takeaways including: “know before you go”, cooldown spaces, asking open ended questions, letting people know what’s going to happen, and giving people more breaks

If you want to hear our full conversation, head to the episode page or listen anywhere fine podcasts are found.